FAMOUS ASTRONAUTS AND GOOD FAITH

For some reason, I had not heard of this couple of “miracles” before. They were described to me by my good friend Aziz, a devout Muslim and certainly not an extremist. Not all devout Muslims advance false theories to advance their beliefs. I daresay not Aziz– an intelligent, smart, modern, broad-minded and fashionable young man.

These are the two alleged events that Aziz so proudly narrated to me (while also making a passing remark that Michael Jackson had converted to Islam before his death):

One, Neil Armstrong, who landed on the moon forty-one years ago, ‘scientifically’ proved that Mecca is the Centre of the Earth.

Two, Sunita Williams has converted to Islam after seeing Mecca and Medina from her perch in space three years ago. The two holy sites shone through the stiff darkness of its surroundings. Williams, convinced it was a miracle, converted to Islam soon after landing back on terra firma.

I said to Aziz:  the centre of the earth, which is obviously a sphere, has to lie in its core. Let us say you mean the centre of the surface of  the earth. How can a sphere, say a football, have a specific point as its centre? You put a point anywhere on the ball and it would be the centre for you. Greenwich village was  arbitrarily selected as the ‘centre’ (timezonewise) for marking a universal standard time; nobody calls it a holy place – not even the British hardcore protestant Christians. Granted, Muslims all over the world –Sunnis, Shias, the discredited  Ahmadiyas, all turn towards Mecca to say their prayers. For reasons of their faith, they consider it the central point of their devotion. If they jointly want to set their clocks to the Arabian Standard time displayed by the new huge clock (four faces; each 151 feet in diameter – nearly seven times as large as the faces of Big Ben) set up at 2000 feet height by the Government of Saudi Arabia, fine. Aziz and I will soon learn to calculate my time with respect to each other’s watch,  just as my friend Llewelyn in Australia and I do  every time  when we fix up our chat dates.

I looked up the internet to see what was the “scientific proof”  advanced by Neil Armstrong to show that Mecca is at the centre of our world.

Here is that alleged proof:

Neil Armstrong proved Makkah the center of the earth.

The centrality of Makkah has been proved scientifically.

When the astronauts travelled to outer space and took pictures of the earth they saw that it is dark, hanging sphere. Astonished, Neil Armstrong said: Earth is a dark hanging sphere, who hung it? Armstrong was basically trying to say ALLAH is the one who hung it. “ 

Now any luminous sphere you see from the dark space would seem suspended. Children from all places and all times have asked the same question: “Papa, who hung that moon up there?” .Our lonely, beautiful blue (not dark) planet  is indeed suspended in space by the many gravitational and centrifugal forces that keep it there. If Armstrong, a Christian, was basically trying to say Allah is the one who hung it, he didn’t say it.  That presumption far exceeds Zakir Naik’s ‘scientific proofs’. 

 There was another more forceful internet (and other media) claim on Armstrong’s conversion to Islam.  (That he heard the call for prayer while in space). This was answered by the great man himself as recently as 2005 while in a Muslim-dominant Country:

“Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:Neil Armstrong

“Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.”

Mas’ud Ahmed Khan, certainly no nonbeliever, wrote:

“NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures. Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and does not know how the rumour started. It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball effect and sooner or later become a “fact” that Muslims boast about can you imagine what impression we give to those who know about Armstrong?

wa’as-Salaam  Mas’ud

Mas’ud hit the nail on its head. False propagandists do not serve the cause of their faith. They trivialize it.

Now take this:

During a conference in Qatar, they Muslim scientists argued that Mecca is the true Center of Earth. They claimed that since the longitude of Mecca was in perfect alignment with the Earth, it is time to replace the GMT, so far the Universal Standard Time with Mecca Time.”

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The longitude of Mecca city is 39 degrees, 45 Minutes East. You might give or take a minute or two for the exact site of  Holy Kaaba. The city’s latitude is 21 degrees, 29 minutes North. You have got these figures assuming the internationally accepted (for now) but arbitrarily selected Greenwich village to be running through zero longitude and the rather more correctly designated equator as zero latitude. The Holy City lies nowhere near the equator, which is one specific line you can mark as near-absolute (since it lies vertical to North-South magnetic field and slices the globe horizontally in near-equal halves). If the Muslim scientists wish to draw the zero-latitude line through Mecca, that is fine too. But I do not believe that the rest of the world would immediately follow suit and rewrite all their scientific calculations, Geopositioning systems, air-and-shipborne navigation instruments and all such rigmarole that science as we know it has evolved over the past two-hundred years through the efforts of western (largely Christian, if you wish to introduce religion into it) navigators and scientists.

A South Indian Hindu Pundit once told me that Lord Krishna specifically selected Guruvayoor in Kerala to be his permanent abode because that was the centre of earth!. He also claimed scientific proof. (These days every religious claim has a scientific proof that scientists have not heard of). I nodded a cynical nod and the Pundit walked away in disgust at my ignorance of science. Unlike with a lone Pundit in faraway Guruvayoor, you can’t be cynical with a conference of scientists – Muslim scientists in this case. (I haven’t heard much about Christian scientists, Jewish scientists nor of Hindu or Buddhist scientists – does science have a religion? There is a journal named Christian Science Monitor, of course).   Now what is the other scientific proof advanced by the Muslim scientists who met in Qatar or Cairo? Mecca is equidistant from the North and South poles  and hence it is magnetically the zero point. I do not know how you measure that distance.  The magnetic poles shift from time to time (like the Centre of gravity of an airplane shifts as you move to the toilet and back), but let us say the length of the earth’s magnetic field is constant. The real North and South poles, on the other hand, are known to be static (with respect to earth), and as I mentioned earlier, it is the equator that more or less falls equidistant to both. If there is a zero-(earth) magnetism point on Mecca, or any other city for that matter, then all the cities, towns, villages and hamlets that share the same latitude share that privilege. Another argument advanced is that the Holy city aligns with the North pole. The magnetic field of the earth (or any force field for that matter) is not a single line, but a whole field (like the atmosphere around us can be described as a field) surrounding the central line (which evidently runs through the core of the earth). In that sense, every point on earth aligns with the North pole – hold a compass, the magnetised needle aligns along the North-South Poles as existing at that point of time and place. If you manage to hold the compass right on top of the magnetic North Pole, you should expect it to flutter and hunt as would a direction-finding insturment over an electronic beacon.

Then you are told that there is an”infinite” radiation that emanates from the holy city that reaches every point in the universe without attenuation. If that radiation is one of divine blessing for believers, one can’t – and mustn’t – dispute it. There is no way to measure the effect of blessings except through faith and long-term experience. There are , indeed, Christian missionaries that “heal” cancer patients on the spot through prayers; but not even the church takes them seriously.  There are Hindu Babas who claim to cure HIV and Aids through Yoga or mumbo-jumbo. That hasn’t stopped India from having the highest number of HIV patients. So  if this Islamic radiation is a physical phenomenon as understood by science – you should be able to measure electro-magnetic radiation  by an oscilloscope or one of those radio detectors that hunt for extra-terrestrial signals round the clock.
If it is a nuclear radiation, then with a Geiger counter. Since this radiation (say of light energy because that is what Sunita Williams is claimed to have noticed) and of infinite and non-attenuating strength , you should have bright light all over the world day or night.  Unless it was focussed towards space and extra-terrestrial objects. I have no argument against the belief that you get healthier by moving around the  holy place any more than against someone else’s belief that all one’s sins are washed away by bathing in a pollluted, hearse-carrying Ganges. My disbelief lies in bringing the name of science into it.

Physicists tell us that there is a uniform microwave radiation present on our earth that probably permeates the whole universe. Microwave Black Backgound spectrumThis is measurable; it measures equal strength whether you direct the microwave detector’s directional antenna towards Saudi Arabia or the godless China. Our earth is nowhere in the centre of the universe of a million or more galaxies – it is not even in the centre of our own Milky Way. Imagine  a swirling Juhu Beach to be the Universe. Now pick a single sand anywhere on this beach (galaxy). Fantasize a single molecule in that sand (a cluster of stars) and one random atom (solar system) in that molecule. In terms of relative size, our earth could be an electron circling the nucleus (sun) of that atom. (My analogy might not be technically right; I am just referring to the relative sizes). Which part of  our chosen electron, or nucleus, or molecule or the particle of sand for that matter, can claim to be the centre of Juhu beach?

It was, indeed, the radiation of  light (not microwave) energy that Williams is said to have noticed when flying over Mecca which instantly induced her to convert to Islam. This is what is said on internet, reproduced faithfully and with great conviction on many other websites:

Sunita Williams accepted “ISLAM” Masha Allah, because when they were on the moon, they saw towards EARTH, the entire EARTH looked dark, but 2 places on the EARTH looked like SPARKS (Roshni). They were shocked to see that and saw them with the help of telescope and came to know that those two places were ” MECCA ” and “MADINA” Masha Allah. Then they decided that after reaching to earth they’ll accept “ISLAM”Sunita williams hoax

Not just Sunita Williams, but “they”. Obviously meaning some other astronauts as well had seen the miracle and converted. We will stick to the case of Williams since other members of the “they” group are not specified.

Now, as far as we know, and I daresay as far as Sunita Williams or NASA knows, the lady has never been, and is most unlikely to ever be on the moon. But never mind that. Perhaps International Space Station, where the lady spent nearly six-and-a-half months, straddling two expeditions without a break, was mistaken for the moon. When she looked towards earth,  the entire earth looked dark but for the two places that shone like sparks! ISS, as per NASA, flies 278 kms away from the earth  at its lowest point of orbit, and 460 kilometres at its highest point. It takes about 90 minutes to make one revolution around the earth. With that speed, it sees only a fraction of the earth – something like 2 to 5% at any given time. Someone on board the ISS does not see earth like we see the moon (where we see only 50% of it on a full moon night). In none of the pictures produced by NASA or by Sunita Williams in her presentations is the whole earth dark – a physical impossibility). At night Continents shone like a smattering of stars with electric lights -New York, Boston, Paris etc among the brightest. Without any artificial lights  Iceland shone the brightest of them all – the huge landmass of ice reflecting the skylights with incredible luminosity.

The two pictures reproduced by the  Masha –Allah-Sunita-Williams-converted enthusiasts  were never part of the pictures presented  by Sunita Williams herself. As a person familiar with computer graphics, they look to me like parts of Google Earth Maps of Mecca and Madina, the contrast between the holy sites and their surrounding enhanced by a photo-editing software (possibly Photoshop).

Perhaps one among the faithfull realized it.  A somewhat more restrained Internet claim says:

“Satellite Pictures of Makka and Madina of Saudi Arabia from Satellite by Sunita Williams.

Hey ppl…the scientists of NASA took these two pictures from one of their space satellites. Its clearly evident that while all of the world appears dark and gloomy, the Khanna Kabba looks like a shining star… Isn’t it amazing

One must admit that, even without a tricky photoshopping,  the area around the Holy Kaaba – laid with pure white marble slabs does look bright when a Google Earth map is enlarged to display the city of Mecca. Sunita_Williams_hoax_source_imageSo it is with Medina. But this is also true of Taj Mahal in Agra, Akshar Dham in Gandhi Nagar – any site surrounded by white flooring or even John F Kennedy Centre for Performing Arts in Washington. None of them, however you might try, is any brighter than Iceland which has no claim to divinity! To my naked eyes, that is so with the universally revered sites of Mecca and Madina.

 Sunita was interviewed by Ajith Balakrishnan of Rediff.com while still in flight, and by quite a few others, including Dilip Sardesai and school children from Singhania Education Centre when she visited India shortly after her  space flight.

When boarding for her historic flight, she said she carried a copy of the Bhagwat Gita , a small statue of Ganesha and some Samosas. Later she ordered some more spicy food from the ground.   I am repeating that not with any particular pride – but that is what she is said to have carried. Though not India-born, and only partly of Indian blood, she obviously loved things Indian.  She ran a barefoot full Boston Marathon while in the Space Station. She walked three (or four?) times in space and watched a continent’s shoreline (not Saudi Arabia) flit by while outside the spacecraft.  She made a presentation of the modules on board the ISS and swam through empty space (as you would in water) to move from one module to the next. She cut her hair while there and brought the clippings to earth. She spoke to ground stations, to media editors and made presentations when back on earth. She wrote extensively on her mission logbook which is available on the ‘Net, but there is no mention of seeing a bright Mecca or Medina and being overwhelmed enough to change her religion.If she produced a shining picture of the Holy City and thereupon converted to Islam, she concealed that fact all too well in her interviews. Nobody since then appears to have asked Sunita Williams directly if she is a Muslim. If she indeed is, there is no reason for her to conceal that fact any more than Barak Hussein Obama didn’t have to hide his middle name before being elected to be the President of his supposedly anti-Muslim country.

 Let’s be fair. This is a tolerant world. Cassius Clay made no secret of the fact when he became Muhammad Ali. Fight managers continued to stage his fights and earn him (and themselves) good money.  Ali drew crowds of all religious faiths wherever he went. His quotes are considered pearls of black pride.  Jermaine Jackson made no secret of the fact that he had converted to Islam over 20 years ago, and even as late as 2007, was persuading his brother Michael to convert. If Michael Jackson didn’t, and died and was buried as a Christian, that was of his own choice. No one, not even Jermaine, claimed to have heard Michael recite the Shahad. We have hundreds of Muslim singers, actors doctors and sportsmen -black, brown or white – not afraid to proclaim their faith. Omar Sheriff was not rejected by Hollywood on grounds of his faith. In the mid-nineteen-forties, a canteen contractor named  Muhammad Yusuf Khan assumed the name Dilip Kumar to become a Hindi film actor. His director probably  thought a Muslim name might not be acceptable enough for the Hindu audience. He was wrong. We have among us now a Dilip Kumar who converted and changed  to be  Allah Rakha Rehman.  He continues to earn fame and fortune not just in India, but also in London and New York. We have amidst us a Muslim ex-president who vehemently supports India’s nuclear efforts and can quote from Gita and Bible  as well as from Qur’an without denouncing any. There is an array of Khans in Hindi film Industry with Hindu wives, sisters-in-law, Christian step mothers. There are Muslim women with Hindu and half-Hindu husbands without changing names and taking up conversion. Pakistani singers make their fortunes in India (though not vice-versa). One of the smartest and most vocal women in our colony is a Muslim married to a handsome Hindu Brahmin. Neither hides their beliefs nor change their names. If Sunita Williams did convert, she would have announced it from the rooftop as did Cassius Clay. So would the fearless recluse named Neil Armstrong. At his advanced age and perhaps not much time to meet his Maker, he would not dare deny Him and his true belief.

Let those who invent scientific theories  and imaginary miracles by all means declare: “If you don’t convert to my faith, you would certainly go to Hell. My Scripture says so.”

But let them also remember these words from the same Holy Scripture:

109.002 I worship not that which ye worship,

109.003 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.004 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

109.005 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.006 To you be your Way, and to me mine.

It is those words that persuade the knowledgeable Muslims declare with conviction that theirs is a tolerant, peaceful religion. Can someone, please, read that passage aloud to Mullah Amar (since he can’t read) and recite it to the ocean so Osama Bin Laden may hear it from somewhere at its bottom?

Amen

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REFERENCES

1. The Holy Quran-English Translation: http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/

2.  http://www.answering-islam.org/Hoaxes/neil.html

3. http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mecca-true-center-earth        

4. SWilliams speaks from space : http://ishare.rediff.com/video/entertainment/sunita-williams-speaks-from-space/1161594

5. Photos of earth : http://www.slideshare.net/LawrenceCarson/astronaut-sunita-williams-pics-of-earth

6. Video: (Evidently  photos knitted together): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUL112I__Gc

7. –http://www.scribd.com/…/Neil-Armstrong-Proved-Makkah-the-Center-of-the-Earth

8. Sunita Williams mission logbook:  http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/expedition15/journal_sunita_williams_8.html

9. Pictures of space by SW : http://www.willowcreeklife.com/space.html
http://hubpages.com/hub/Beautiful-Space-Photo-by-Sunita-Williams

10. Stephen Hawking, “A Brief History of Time”. Space Times Publications, 1988

11. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342740/posts

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59 thoughts on “FAMOUS ASTRONAUTS AND GOOD FAITH

  1. Hmm…Muslims are fooling whole world…….by creating as many as hoax they can and fooling people who lags brain to find out truth!!

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    1. It is wrong to blame “Muslims” as a whole for a few false claims. If you read my blog with care, you’d notice that the initial comment against these false claims came from a practising Muslim. Aziz (name changed), a pious Muslim and a great young friend who inspired the blog during a midnight discussion did not feel offended by my blog. Zakir Naik, who finds frequent reference in my blog is definitely no extremist, but he does make fantastic claims that even Muslim religious high-ups refute. Believers of the religion into which I was born tend to make up stories (and TV serials) that would make JK Rowling seem like a Nursery-class liar. Religion has that delusional effect on man.

      Nonetheless, Sanatana, thank you for reading.

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      1. You must watch.Anton shkaplerov’s space photos of Mecca published on 26 jan 2015. He is a Russian astronaut ..sunita Williams photos were fake but these are real.

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        1. These “Amazing photos of Mecca and Medina appear as a comment by Firda Nuzuli Nst ‏@firda_05 to Anton Aastrey. I did not find them in the orginal tweets of Anton Shkaplerov nor of Anton Astrey. I am trying to contact either of the Antons and if they confirm that these images are as were photographed by Anton shkaplerov from the ISS, I will certainly apologize for my comments and suggestion of photoshopping the images and publish my findings with those words of apology.

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      2. First thing is why would U apologise for presenting the truth about some pictures which were really fake.Islam is the only religion which challenges the ppl to discover any doubt/mistake in the Holy book Quran..so the photoshop pics shared in the name of sunita are fake,and I can never support anything which is fake and is being presented in the name of Islam.which is the religion of truth and only truth.

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      3. I don’t know how you were unable to find these pics in the original tweets of Anton shkaplerov @AntonAstrey.i myself checked it again now..scroll back the tweets from Anton upto the date 26 jan 2015 ..the pic posted on this date is tweeted by anton and also retweeted many times..U can also check this on YouTube.He also mentioned this thing in his interview to a Russian TV I think .and the images are clearly shown in this video.

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      4. Also Firda Nuzuli Nst @firda _05 commented this pic to Anton only 5 days ago.below this tweet U can see that she have actually retweeted this same pic from Anton.

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      5. Hello brother you have very nicely expained but I want to inform you that Islam is not about what people say it is about what THe Holy QURAN says.

        and I am presenting a challenge to you that ,”Can you wrong any fact presented in the Holy QURAN ???
        Ofcourse You won`t be able to.
        Brother why not start with your scriptures …
        Pratisarg Parv 3; Khand 3; Adhyaai 3; Shlokas 5 to 27
        its translation:At that time a spiritual teacher (Acharya) known as Mahamad (Muhammad) appeared amongst the Mlecchas (non Indians/non Aryans), along with his companions/disciples. The King after giving this Mahaa Deva (of angelic disposition) dweller of the desert (Marusthal Nivasi), a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganges water (meaning honouring and praising him) offered him presents and showing him all reverence said: “I pay obeisance to you (Namaste) O Pride of Humanity (Girija Nath) dweller of the desert (Marusthal Nivaasi/Arabian dweller). You are the destroyer of the Devil (Tripurasur Naashaaya) who propagates deceit. You have been protected by fellow Mlecchas, and you are the embodiment of Divine Qualities (Sacchidanand Roopine). I am a your servant, and have come seeking your refuge.

        and in many more places in the vedas.

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    2. Dear Akshay,

      We meet again. Muslims are not the only people of religion who create hoaxes, as you call them. In a recent panel discussion on Asaram’s statement on the the poor girl who got raped and murdered by six men (all Hindus, not that their religion matters to me, but should matter to you), a saffron-wearing “Sadhu” claimed that Yuru Gagarin, the first man to fly in space and return to earth heard “OM” while in space. Why Gagarin did not convert to Santan Dharma right away shall remain a mystery.

      Osho’s version on Gagarin not hearing “OM” was this:

      When Yuri Gagarin returned from space, one of the questions asked of him was, “Did you see God?” Gagarin replied: “I have been to outer space, and I didn’t see God. So there’s no God”. Osho said these words are emblazened in the Anti-god museum in Leningrad. Perhaps this was a hoax by Osho: there’s no Anit-god museum in Leningrad. There’s one on the History of Religion and Atheism. I couldn’t find that Gagarin quotation, emblazened in gold or otherwise, there.

      I could tell you (if you haven’t read of my latest blogs) of a Hindu website that creates hoaxes – the one that you recommended to me for my reform. But that better wait for another blog.

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        1. Pooja, there are photos everywhere. There are photos produced by the claimants of the alleged miracles in my blog. Which other photos are you writing about?

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    1. As far as I am aware, NASA makes no declarations of any kind. They do occasionbally publicise some of their scientific findings. This light supposed to be emanating from Mecca obviously does not fall in the realm of scientific truth; so there are no publicised documents on it from NASA. Nor from Sunita Williams. As I have stated in the body of my blog, Neil Armstrong denied hearing the call to prayers in space and converting to Islam when a specific question was put to him while visiting Malaysia. Otherwise he probably wouldn’t have bothered.

      Incidentally, A team from the Centre for Remote Sensing (CRS) of Bharathidasan University, and the Geological Society’of India ‘declared’ that Palk Strait aka Ram Setu is a natural formation and not a man-made (or for that matter monkey-made) bridge; Government of India, in an affidavit in the Supreme Court submitted an affidavit that there is no historical proof of the bridge being built by Rama. Did that make a difference to the Hindu belief that the bridge was made by the monkeys who came to help Rama under Hanuman’s supervision?

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  2. In your blog i saw these lines, “ISS, as per NASA, flies 278 kms away from the earth at its lowest point of orbit, and 460 kilometres at its highest point. It takes about 90 minutes to make one revolution around the earth. With that speed, it sees only a fraction of the earth – something like 2 to 5% at any given time. Someone on board the ISS does not see earth like we see the moon (where we see only 50% of it on a full moon night). In none of the pictures produced by NASA or by Sunita Williams in her presentations is the whole earth dark – a physical impossibility).” My question to you that,someone on the board the ISS does not see the whole earth by the satellite camera or by the naked eye? and another question is that Sunita Williams and others saw the whole earth dark by the satellite or by their naked eye?Actually what internet claim means by that. Please discuss it elaborately.

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    1. Dear Koushik,

      It’s always a pleasure to note that youngsters like you read my blog and ask questions. However, I must point out that my blog answers all your questions posed on this comment of yours. For one thing, you can never see a whole sphere from any viewing angle. As you know, we are destined to see only 50% of the moon even on full-moon days; other side will always be hidden from you unless you travel to the moon and trek to that side (assuming you manage to land there). There are a number of pictures on the ‘Net that gives the views of of our beautiful blue (not black – if it were black, you wouldn’t see it from space. Who has seen a black hole?) planet from the ISS. None of them is “full earth” or even a full semisphere. Whether you view with naked eyes or with the best telescope – your angle of vision will remain the same. A telescope will actually reduce the area visible to you while enhancing the details. As regards your question “who has claimed on the ‘Net that Sunita Williams etc. has seen from the saltellite the whole earth was dark?” – I have made several references to those sites: Just search “Sunita Williams+Islam” on any search engine, you will find those sites.

      Thank you, nonehteless. Best, Vishu

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    2. Dear Shuvro,

      The average radius of earth is something like 6,370 kms. The highest point that the ISS reaches away from earth is about 460 kms.

      Forget the curvature of earth for the moment. Draw a circle of 6.4 inches radius, representing earth’s flat view at a scale of 1″ = 1000 kilometres. Now choose a point anywhere outside the periphery of the circle at a distance of 0.45 inches from the circumference. Draw a tangent to the cirlce (a straight line that just touches the circumference without entering it, but flies off ). The length of this line between the point and the circumference can be taken to be the radius of the largest horizon that can be seen by the ISS. You can draw a circle with this radius anywhere within the earth and you get an idea of this horizon.

      Our calculations are of course approximate since earth is a three-dimensional sphere and not a flat circle. But the representaion holds to a remarkable degree. Don’t forget that our scaled circle shows only 50% of the surface of earth even in this approximate representation.

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    1. Real Mezan,

      The answer should be obvious. A telescope brings an object closer. When you see an object- in this case our planet – with naked eyes, you see more of its span – a larger horizon. When you use a telescope and strart adjusting it for more and more details, you see less and less of it all around in terms of the horizon of vision. So if Sunita Williams used a telescope to see any part of the earth closer, she saw a smaller area of it.

      Thank you for writing.

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    2. Using a telescope, you see a smaller area, but larger details. Just as you would when looking at an object closer. Thanks for writing, Mezanur.

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  3. You wrote in your blog that only 2% to 5% of earth is visible from ISS. Are you 100% sure about this? I looked lot of photos of ISS in the internet. After observing those photos I am not convinced that only 2% to 5% of earth is visible from ISS. Please don’t mind. Actually a doubt is raised in my mind. Please remove the doubt from my mind.

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      1. Let me once again clarify this with the answer I wrote for another reader.

        The average radius of earth is something like 6,370 kms. The highest point that the ISS reaches away from earth is about 460 kms.

        Forget the curvature of earth for the moment. Draw a circle of 6.4 inches radius, representing earth’s flat view at a scale of 1″ = 1000 kilometres. Now choose a point anywhere outside the periphery of the circle at a distance of 0.45 inches from the circumference. Draw a tangent to the cirlce (a straight line that just touches the circumference without entering it, but flies off ). The length of this line between the point and the circumference can be taken to be the radius of the largest horizon that can be seen by the ISS. You can draw a circle with this radius anywhere within the earth and you get an idea of this horizon.

        Our calculations are of course approximate since earth is a three-dimensional sphere and not a flat circle. But the representaion holds to a remarkable degree. Don’t forget that our scaled circle shows only 50% of the surface of earth even in this approximate representation.

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  4. Actually I made a mistake. I saw a lot of of photos of earth from ISS. That’s what I mean in my writing.

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    1. The horizon you view from above always appear a part of a sphere. But that is only a segment of the whole earth. There are photographs of the whole earth (that is , 50% of the earth) – like your view of the moon. I do not believe those photos are taken from the ISS- even when it was at its apogee of its orbit. Search “photos of earth from ISS and let me know if you can see one covering the area of a whole continent at least.
      But, Sukanta, thank you for the interest.

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    2. You read, you looked for ISS pictures and came up with a genuine question. Where is the mistake? I invite you to read my next blog.
      Thanks, Vishu Menon

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      1. Actually, I wrote that I looked lot of photos of earth from ISS. I know that those photos are not 50% of earth. But the percentage can be increased. It will cross 2% to 5% and may take 10% to 15%. By the way, don’t take it seriously. It is my assumption. Did you look all the photos of Sunita Williams which was given in her mission logbook (The one which was published from NASA)?

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  5. The extent of the width of horizon that a viewer will see from the ISS would depend on the height of the satellite at that point of time with respect to earth. The curvature you see on the photographs are the curvature of the horizon, not ot the earth itself. Take a look at the photo of part of Africa and Europe. Do you think that these parts cover the entire hemisphere of earth as it would appear in the photograph? The circumference of earth is 40,008 kms. 10% of it would be about 4000 kms. That is more than the greatest length of Indian subcontinent, measured along a great circle from end to tend or the highest width of the Head of Africa. NO, ISS photographs do not cover such width or length. Admittedly, my 2 to 5% estimate is very rough, but is closer to truth than 10 to 15%.

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  6. Hello Vishumenon,
    Did Muhammad Ali really die at age 67? I thought he was still alive (as of August 2011).
    Sincerely, Paul.

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    1. Hi, Paul. There must be thousands of Mohammad Alis alive. I wish them all long and happy lifves. I wish the same for all Pauls alive around the world.

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  9. Just let me know how to understand “It” full, and I might even convert more realistically than Williams and Armstrong.

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  10. Howdy! This post could not be written any better! Reading this post
    reminds me of my previous room mate! He always kept chatting
    about this. I will forward this post to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read.
    Thanks for sharing!

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  11. Hi Vishnu,Very interesting and facts explained very intellectually with great detail to convince and confirm the realities with fairness. I admire your knowledge in this subject matter and I am glad this will put the matter to rest.

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    1. Dear Pancara, you certainly may. Just rember I have nothing against religious faith; only against blatantly false claims. Best, VM

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  12. Let me conclude this discussion wishing Neil Armstrong the kind of peace and joy in death that Socrates visualised. Armstrong died recently without converting into any religion other than his own personal beliefs, which he neither proclaimed nor Proselytized. Happy New Year to all my readers.
    08.01.2013.

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    1. Dear Amtul,

      I wholeheartedly agree with you that one must not discard an inconvenient evidence just because it does not corroborate one’s theory. Only the police and the prosecutors do it.

      2. The area where Mecca is situated is bright as compared to the surrounding areas. You will find that there is a smaller, but similarly bright area at the far top right corner of the image. That surely is not Madina. It gives us a clue.

      3. The image is displayed in extremely high contrast. This might be due to the setting of the camera, or digital enhancement of the image after it was received.

      4. If the brightness you notice is a source of light, and not a reflection, the area around the central image would not be so defined. Because it would radiate in all directions which would also reflect back some of the light, you would find that the area around it is suffused with brightness, thereby losing definition. (Try looking at the sun, you will know what I mean.)
      5. So it is reflected ligt. Obviously, Mecca Mosque which houses the holy rock and the surrounding ground are bright reflectors of light. (If it was a night of Hajj congregation, the worshippers would all be wearing pristine white clothes).

      6. No image can be brighter than the paper it is printed on, or the maximum brightness of the digital screen.The undue brightness you notice is because of your eye comparing with the blackness of the major portion of the rest of the area. Try, after some rest in a dark night, switching on your mobile phone. It’s brightness will blind your eyes.

      The degree of brightness is an optical illusion. If you photograph Taj Mahal from space with a high contrast setting, it would appear brighter than Anton’s photo of Mecca. A bit of friendly persuasion can make the photographer tweet on the wonder as well. What I mean is: I am not convinced that there is nothing divine in the photo that one cannot see from the ground.

      Thanks for writing. Do contradict with logic, not faith. I can’t argue with faith. Have a nice day.

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  13. The photos taken by the Antons were specific and deliberate. I’m sure there are other photos of other places, NYC or London which might show up as bright. Anton does not make any specific claim that these were out of the ordinary and so they prove nothing except to show how well lit the two cities are as seen from the ISS. I’m a Muslim and one of the best advice you can find in the Qu’ran is for us to investigate. Our forefathers did and helped establish the scientific method. Should any Muslim feel the need of these hoaxes then I advise them to reexamine their faith.

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    1. Thank you. Those who invent non-existent proofs to support their faith only do damage to the faith. The latest that I hear is that bodies of Muslims do not decay after they are dead; they remain full-blooded till the day of judgment. They forget that that the Prophet himself claimed no miraculous powers.

      Thanks for reading. Do comment on my blogs. Adverse comments are welcome – they sharpen one’s thought process.

      Best, VM

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    1. If ‘odd looking’ people are converts, I could be one. I too love children as special gifts of nature. Does that mean I converted to whatever? I believe that all cases of pedophilia against Michael Jackson were money-making rackets; the guy coughed up because he was too sensitive about his fame. That only made things worse; shameless fraudsters made a long queue to grab at his wallet. If he had converted, his brother Jermaine who says he had been trying to convert Jackson for twenty years would have proudly said so. Cassius clay lost neither fame nor money by becoming Muhammad Ali; Michael Jackson would have been just as much in demand if he had changed to Asharaf Khan or whatever. One of the best paid film music directors in the world today is Allah Rakha Rehman. His original name was Dilip Kumar, a popular Hindu name. Lovers of music, films and sports care nothing about religion.

      However, conspiracy theorists, I know, will never give up/

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  14. today i read an article regarding the location of kaaba in mecca is conforming to the magic number or universal number or golden number or creator’s no of 1.618(fibonacci no). Claiming the ratio of distance of holy place from north pole to its distance from south pole. Same way ratio of distance from east extreme end to its west extreme end.
    i checked the distance of mecca between north and south poles and the ratio is exact. but don’t know how to check east and west, as i don’t have idea about east and west extreme ends.

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    1. Some people would do anything to fit a square into a hole. Pseudo science is a good tool for that kind of things, You have come out with a new one, However, no Christian, Hindu or Jewish astronaut has so far heard the Mezzin’s call while flying in pace; no Muslim Jihard or peer has been found lying fresh with blood flowing in arteries after buried as dea, there is no way that CMBR is radiating from Mecca, nor are Mecca and Madina the brightest place on earth when seen from space. Neither have Muslim astronauts, flying in mostly Christian or atheist-made spacecraft, have yet made up their mind which way to turn for saying their prayers while in outer space.

      Now, to your observation

      The relationship of the Golden ratio, which is a mean of a series of numbers you coul get from the equation
      Where a>b, a/b = (a+b)/a.

      The result is never an integer except when b=0, but number 1 followed by an infinite number of decmals. Mathematically, this can be shown to be equal to (1+Sqrt5)/2. Since Sqrt5 is not an integer, you get 1.618033988749……

      Fibonacci numbers are a series that follow the rule f(n1)+f(n2) = f(n3). Thus 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34… (by now you get the pattern). It is often claimed that nature follows a number from this series more often than not. This, again, is an attempt at fitting a square into a hole. There indeed are flowers with 4 and 7 petals. Numbr of Planets in our system is not 8 (there are a couple more even if you discount Pluto), nor are the 7 layers of heaven and an equal number of hell that Quran mentions. Also, Fibonocci’s ratio between two adjacent numbers is not always the golden ratio, although as you go along, it does approach the series as given. 1/2 is not = 3/2; 5/3 is not = 8/5. As you go further, say, 21/13approaches 34/21., but whatever adjacent numbers in the series you might take up, you would not get the 1.618033…. I am mentioning this because you mentioned Fibonacci with the Golden Ratio, sometimes even known as the Divine Ratio. Davinci’s sketch of the Vitruvian man has his range (horizontal length when his arms are stretched) to his height is supposed to be of this ratio. If this is so, it is because Davinci sketched it to be so. There are people with long arms and short height and do not answer to this ratio.

      That is as far as mathematics go. Now you say you checked the ratio of the North Pole and the South Pole with respect to Kaaba. How did you measure it? Let us say, that you took the Great Circle distance as available on the ‘Net. In this case, a, the larger distance to South pole is 12404 km and that to North Pole b is 7634 km , So a/b= 1.624836….. This becomes a Golden ratio only when (a+b)/a is the same number. The result we get is 1.6154466… Neither is equal, nor close enough to the divine ratio, but let us say it is within tolerance levels. So all the places, mosques, churches, temples and godless towns along the same latitude as Mecca would be situated in the same Golden (Divine) ratio. You would find that the Ramnagar Shiv Temple and Swaminarayan Mandir (both on same latitude) in Nagpur is closer to the Golden ratio than that of Kaaba, Funny, no Hindu pseudo-scientist has found this out yet. The largest religious book in the world (729 stone slabs) is to be found in a pagoda of the same latitude in Buddhist Mandalay, Burmah. Cities such as Maui, Hong Kong, Guadalajara, Hanoi, and Guantanamo Bay (where Americans religiously practised their torture skills on innocent Muslims) and purto Vallarta of Mexico exist in great style with only minor variations of less than 0.15% in tolerance within the same Divine Ratio. Some point in all these places surely share the same Ratio as does Kaaba in Mecca. You could find points where they make a better fit,

      To prove that all these cities do not share the same Alah’s blessings as Kaaba in Mecca, you can arbitrarily fix a point along latitude 21.1458° N with a point in geographic longitude such that the Golden ratio of distance to the West and that to the East is exactly 1.618033… This part is much easier, since you could fix your own reference point. As of now, the 0 longitude had been fixed arbitrarily by arrogant Christian seafarers of yore in Greenwich, England, whichcouldn’t be of much help to Islamic pseudo-science.

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